Is Speaking in Tongues still available today?
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Yup - still is available. I've been speaking in tongues PRIVATELY since '73, but NEVER was burdened by the Holy Spirit to speak a tongue in a service.
I have, however, been burdened to speak interpretation on many occasions and more occasionally to speak Prophesy.
That tongues have ceased is GENERALLY based on 1 Cor 13:8-10 according to people who believe that: "That which is perfect" refers to the formalization of the Biblical canon. The Death of the last Apostle is also cited, and even the invention of the printing press, so that the Bible was available to the masses. they resist the belief
Are some tongues PHONY?? Absolutely!!! the "Priming the pump " foolishness (making random sounds, or talking baby talk to get it started) that some pentecostals teach (Particularly those who falsely teach that no "tongues = no salvation") will easily result in phony tongues made up by the speaker, INSTEAD OF being sourced by the Holy Spirit.
The simple fact is that ALL THE SPOKEN GIFTS (Tongues, Prophesy, Word of Knowledge, Word of Wisdom, and Interpretation) can be done with a little practice. VIctor Wierwille (The WAY International) for $200 would teach you how to do it all on cue.
There are any number of things in life which ARE NOT covered SPECIFICALLY in the Bible, beyond general principles. Peter going to Cornelius' house was the result on the "Word of Knowledge" given to him by the Holy Spirit. And it goes without saying that any Utterance that presents unbiblical information, is FALSE.
I have, however, been burdened to speak interpretation on many occasions and more occasionally to speak Prophesy.
That tongues have ceased is GENERALLY based on 1 Cor 13:8-10 according to people who believe that: "That which is perfect" refers to the formalization of the Biblical canon. The Death of the last Apostle is also cited, and even the invention of the printing press, so that the Bible was available to the masses. they resist the belief
Are some tongues PHONY?? Absolutely!!! the "Priming the pump " foolishness (making random sounds, or talking baby talk to get it started) that some pentecostals teach (Particularly those who falsely teach that no "tongues = no salvation") will easily result in phony tongues made up by the speaker, INSTEAD OF being sourced by the Holy Spirit.
The simple fact is that ALL THE SPOKEN GIFTS (Tongues, Prophesy, Word of Knowledge, Word of Wisdom, and Interpretation) can be done with a little practice. VIctor Wierwille (The WAY International) for $200 would teach you how to do it all on cue.
There are any number of things in life which ARE NOT covered SPECIFICALLY in the Bible, beyond general principles. Peter going to Cornelius' house was the result on the "Word of Knowledge" given to him by the Holy Spirit. And it goes without saying that any Utterance that presents unbiblical information, is FALSE.
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I'll ask you again.
This is human language right here. You are a human. Without looking online for a translation, tell me what it says, "Kenapa anda perlu penejermah atau penafsir kalau anda manusia?"
You might be able to get an AI translator if it is typed in. But if someone just said that in church, you should be able to understand it, right, based on what you said? It's human language, right, so why would interpretation be necessary?
If someone speaks in tongues in Tocharian A, are you going to understand that? I wouldn't.
If someone speaks in tongues in an angelic language or a human language, no one understands. Either way, interpretation is needed.
What do you think about those who have experienced going into a Pentecotal meeting, hearing their own language spoken in tongues, and the interpretation?
This is human language right here. You are a human. Without looking online for a translation, tell me what it says, "Kenapa anda perlu penejermah atau penafsir kalau anda manusia?"
You might be able to get an AI translator if it is typed in. But if someone just said that in church, you should be able to understand it, right, based on what you said? It's human language, right, so why would interpretation be necessary?
If someone speaks in tongues in Tocharian A, are you going to understand that? I wouldn't.
If someone speaks in tongues in an angelic language or a human language, no one understands. Either way, interpretation is needed.
What do you think about those who have experienced going into a Pentecotal meeting, hearing their own language spoken in tongues, and the interpretation?
When people hear their own language it is God confirming them to yield to Him. Could be a call to Salvation, Repentance, a Blessing on the way.
But what about the thousands of recorded speaking in tongues that every translator in the world "cannot decipher?" But someone with the Supernatural Gift can Interpret?
But what about the thousands of recorded speaking in tongues that every translator in the world "cannot decipher?" But someone with the Supernatural Gift can Interpret?
If no one knows a human without clues, a linguist wouldn't be able to decipher it. The Rosetta stone combined with study of Coptic lead to cracking ancient Egyptian. We can't interpret a language we don't know on the fly. And how would we know an angelic language? No one knows the language spoken, so no one can interpreted it, and a gift is needed.
We know there's over 7,000 (7,117) languages ever spoken. We've been to every continent and island. So we are well aware of basically every human language ever spoken. So when a linguist or translator "cannot" decipher or translate speaking in tongues, it's just how Paul explains it to be...
2 For anyone who speaks in tongues does not speak to men but to God. Indeed, no one understands him; he utters mysteries with his spirit.
This means it is not a human language but a language "only God" (not human) knows.
2 For anyone who speaks in tongues does not speak to men but to God. Indeed, no one understands him; he utters mysteries with his spirit.
This means it is not a human language but a language "only God" (not human) knows.
Really? It probably never dawned on you to check out current or extinct languages on earth. You bypassed my post a portion below which highlights what you copied from that post. You are being disingenuous.
It's the type of presentation you have given in this thread that just turn people off and claim those who speak in tongues are not examples of biblical tongues. And now I see you call yourself a teacher.
God help us. SMH
It's the type of presentation you have given in this thread that just turn people off and claim those who speak in tongues are not examples of biblical tongues. And now I see you call yourself a teacher.
God help us. SMH
Really? It probably never dawned on you to check out current or extinct languages on earth. You bypassed my post a portion below which highlights what you copied from that post. You are being disingenuous.
It's the type of presentation you have given in this thread that just turn people off and claim those who speak in tongues are not examples of biblical tongues. And now I see you call yourself a teacher.
God help us. SMH
It's the type of presentation you have given in this thread that just turn people off and claim those who speak in tongues are not examples of biblical tongues. And now I see you call yourself a teacher.
God help us. SMH
2 For anyone who speaks in tongues does not speak to men but to God. Indeed, no one understands him; he utters mysteries with his spirit.
How come no human can understand this? No human can translate this if it is a "human language?"
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I'm not going to respond to you again. It's pointless.
But I will state that I am not making claims. That, is most definitely YOUR claim to fame. You have misapprehended scripture and sadly do not properly understand what is being said ~ either in this thread or particularly, in scripture.
Again, I am not your teacher but it seems neither is scripture as you have illustrated in this thread and yes, I understand you are sincere but that does not equate with proper understanding or instruction.
But I will state that I am not making claims. That, is most definitely YOUR claim to fame. You have misapprehended scripture and sadly do not properly understand what is being said ~ either in this thread or particularly, in scripture.
Again, I am not your teacher but it seems neither is scripture as you have illustrated in this thread and yes, I understand you are sincere but that does not equate with proper understanding or instruction.
