Plight of the palestinians

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Shilohsfoal

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Israel did not actually target the church and eyewitnesses confirmed that. Here is what happened:

"The Israeli military told AFP that its fighter jets had hit a command and control centre involved in launching rockets and mortars towards Israel.

“As a result of the IDF [Israeli army] strike, a wall of a church in the area was damaged,” it said, adding “we are aware of reports on casualties. The incident is under review.”
Witnesses said the attack damaged the facade of the church and caused an adjacent building to collapse, adding that many injured people were evacuated to hospital...


Explaining the damage done to the church, the Israeli military claimed: “Hamas intentionally embeds its assets in civilian areas and uses the residents of the Gaza Strip as human shields.”"

Of course Al Jazeera -- a propagandist for Islamist terrorists -- calls this a "war crime".
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/20/war-crime-israel-bombs-gaza-church-sheltering-displaced-

Hundreds of Christians and Muslims were sheltering inside Saint Porphyrius church on Thursday evening when a missile brought down part of the complex, killing at least 16 people.
On Friday their bodies were laid out for a mass funeral in the church courtyard, wrapped in white sheets beside the rubble that killed them. Four were tiny children.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...eld-for-those-killed-in-gaza-church-airstrike
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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The promises were not to the beast which the people of Israel worship today.

That beast will be cast into the lake of fire,then the kingdom is given to the saints who are in Christ.
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The promise is to Abraham and his seed, the Jewish people read Romans 11.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Hundreds of Christians and Muslims were sheltering inside Saint Porphyrius church on Thursday evening when a missile brought down part of the complex, killing at least 16 people.
On Friday their bodies were laid out for a mass funeral in the church courtyard, wrapped in white sheets beside the rubble that killed them. Four were tiny children.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...eld-for-those-killed-in-gaza-church-airstrike

Yes, that's called war and it's horrible. But there were Jewish children murdered, still being held hostage, women that were raped and dragged through the streets. So Hamas wanted war and they got it. They are to blame for the deaths.
 

Shilohsfoal

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The promise is to Abraham and his seed, the Jewish people read Romans 11.
No ,the promises are not to antichrist Jews .The promises were made to Christ.

Galatians 3:16
The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ.


Galatians 3:29
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.


About 98 percent of the population in Israel are not in Christ,and the majority of them who believe in Christ are Arab.

The majority of Israels population worship their government they have made for themselves and it's kingdom.

Amos 5
Did you bring me sacrifices and offerings
forty years in the wilderness, people of Israel?
26 You have lifted up the shrine of your king,
the pedestal of your idols,
the star of your god[b]—
which you made for yourselves.

27 Therefore I will send you into exile beyond Damascus,”
says the Lord, whose name is God Almighty.


Do you also support their king they have chosen for themselves?You support Benjamin netanyahu and his government of them who deny Christ,?
 

Nehemiah6

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No ,the promises are not to antichrist Jews .The promises were made to Christ.
Who says that the promise is to "antichrist Jews"? Do you have any clue about this subject? Take some time off and carefully study the matter.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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Read Joshua and Judges. Joshua and specific Tribes "chose" not to kill all of the peoples as Commanded by God. The Bible says several times in those 2 Books these people remain "to this day." This could have been fixed. Another case of not completely following the orders and command of God.
 

Nehemiah6

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Yes,the king of Babylon will continue to smite the palestinians untill the king of Babylon is destroyed .Then there will be celebrations for a few days ,then utter destruction.
There is no king of Babylon today. So how can he be smiting the Palestinians? Babylon does not even exist.
 

Shilohsfoal

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Yes, that's called war and it's horrible. But there were Jewish children murdered, still being held hostage, women that were raped and dragged through the streets. So Hamas wanted war and they got it. They are to blame for the deaths.
Hamas invaded and killed some children but the king of babylon has killed far more both before this started and will continue to kill many more after.

I'm not sure there are any Israeli children left alive in Gaza.Israel has been bombing everything including children.Israels military gunned down Israelis who were no threat and even removed their shirts and carried a while flag so Israel wouldnt kill them.They killed them anyways.

The king of Babylon has been smiting Palestinians for many decades now.He will come to his end .Even the cedar trees in Lebanon will rejoice at his fall

Isaiah 14

7 The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing.

8 Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us.
 

Shilohsfoal

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There is no king of Babylon today. So how can he be smiting the Palestinians? Babylon does not even exist.

When you see the beast from the abyss and those ten horns attack and capture Jerusalem ,you might realize the king of Babylon was there all along.

Revelation 17
5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.

6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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Read Joshua and Judges. Joshua and specific Tribes "chose" not to kill all of the peoples as Commanded by God. The Bible says several times in those 2 Books these people remain "to this day." This could have been fixed. Another case of not completely following the orders and command of God.
21 But the people of Benjamin did not drive out the Jebusites who lived in Jerusalem, so the Jebusites have lived with the people of Benjamin in Jerusalem to this day.

Several examples like this.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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27 Manasseh did not drive out the inhabitants of Beth-shean
29 And Ephraim did not drive out the Canaanites
30 Zebulun did not drive out the inhabitants of Kitron
31 Asher did not drive out the inhabitants of Acco
33 Naphtali did not drive out the inhabitants of Beth-shemesh

example after example

This "has NOTHING" to do with Babylon. It has everything to do with these verses that ticked off God!
 

Shilohsfoal

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So many people support the prostitute .

Isaiah 1:21
See how the faithful city has become a prostitute! She once was full of justice; righteousness used to dwell in her— but now murderers!
 

Shilohsfoal

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27 Manasseh did not drive out the inhabitants of Beth-shean
29 And Ephraim did not drive out the Canaanites
30 Zebulun did not drive out the inhabitants of Kitron
31 Asher did not drive out the inhabitants of Acco
33 Naphtali did not drive out the inhabitants of Beth-shemesh

example after example

Everyone who is not In Christ will be driven out .Everyone including the Jews who reject Christ.

Luke 13:28
“There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves thrown out.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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Everyone who is not In Christ will be driven out .Everyone including the Jews who reject Christ.

Luke 13:28
“There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves thrown out.
Weeping and Gnashing of teeth is in hell. So this has nothing to do with physical Israel either
 

Shilohsfoal

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Weeping and Gnashing of teeth is in hell. So this has nothing to do with physical Israel either
You believe jesus telling the Jews they will be cast out of the kingdom has nothing to do with Jews?


Luke 13:28
“There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves thrown out.


You can't be serious.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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You believe jesus telling the Jews they will be cast out of the kingdom has nothing to do with Jews?


Luke 13:28
“There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves thrown out.


You can't be serious.
Not what I am saying.

Do you believe this verse 28 is strictly only for the Jew? Or for everyone?
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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No ,the promises are not to antichrist Jews .The promises were made to Christ.

Listen, you're one of about 300 that come here thinking you're preaching to people and you have special information. The land was promised to the Jews.

And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, who appeared unto him.

In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:


And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.


Repeats this to Issac - Sojourn in this land, and I will be with you and will bless you, for to you and to your offspring I will give all these lands, and I will establish the oath that I swore to Abraham your father.

And to Jacob - And behold, the LORD stood above it and said, “I am the LORD, the God of Abraham your father and the God of Isaac. The land on which you lie I will give to you and to your offspring.

About 98 percent of the population in Israel are not in Christ,and the majority of them who believe in Christ are Arab.

The majority of Israels population worship their government they have made for themselves and it's kingdom.
Romans 11 says the Jews are blinded for a time. The promise isn't to the Arab it's to the Jew.


Do you also support their king they have chosen for themselves?You support Benjamin netanyahu and his government of them who deny Christ,?
The Bible says God sets up and knocks down kingdoms. He will deal with His people as He sees fit. I don't know who or how He will restore His people, I just know that He will keep His promise.
 

Shilohsfoal

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Not what I am saying.

Do you believe this verse 28 is strictly only for the Jew? Or for everyone?
Jesus is specifically talking to the Jews who reside in the kingdom who will be cast out .He is not speaking to anyone who is outside of the kingdom .Just the unbelieving Jews within the kingdom.

Luke 13:28
“There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves thrown out.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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Jesus is specifically talking to the Jews who reside in the kingdom who will be cast out .He is not speaking to anyone who is outside of the kingdom .Just the unbelieving Jews within the kingdom.

Luke 13:28
“There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves thrown out.
True, but God knew I would read this verse and you would. So is it strictly only to the Jew, in your opinion?
 

Shilohsfoal

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Listen, you're one of about 300 that come here thinking you're preaching to people and you have special information. The land was promised to the Jews.

And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, who appeared unto him.

In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:


And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.

Repeats this to Issac - Sojourn in this land, and I will be with you and will bless you, for to you and to your offspring I will give all these lands, and I will establish the oath that I swore to Abraham your father.

And to Jacob - And behold, the LORD stood above it and said, “I am the LORD, the God of Abraham your father and the God of Isaac. The land on which you lie I will give to you and to your offspring.



Romans 11 says the Jews are blinded for a time. The promise isn't to the Arab it's to the Jew.




The Bible says God sets up and knocks down kingdoms. He will deal with His people as He sees fit. I don't know who or how He will restore His people, I just know that He will keep His promise.

Christ is the heir.
It is marvelous in my eyes.


Mark
12 And he began to speak unto them by parables. A certain man planted a vineyard, and set an hedge about it, and digged a place for the winefat, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country.

2 And at the season he sent to the husbandmen a servant, that he might receive from the husbandmen of the fruit of the vineyard.

3 And they caught him, and beat him, and sent him away empty.

4 And again he sent unto them another servant; and at him they cast stones, and wounded him in the head, and sent him away shamefully handled.

5 And again he sent another; and him they killed, and many others; beating some, and killing some.

6 Having yet therefore one son, his wellbeloved, he sent him also last unto them, saying, They will reverence my son.

7 But those husbandmen said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and the inheritance shall be ours.'

8 And they took him, and killed him, and cast him out of the vineyard.

9 What shall therefore the lord of the vineyard do? he will come and destroy the husbandmen, and will give the vineyard unto others.

10 And have ye not read this scripture; The stone which the builders rejected is become the head of the corner:

11 This was the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?