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Sorry, I am not sure I understand the question.

I would define ”time” as a “means of measuring distance through space” or something like that. That distance can include a succession of events. I am not making claims about nothing. I think one of two options must be true: 1. God exists outside time and therefore part of his nature is to...

You are right. It does not mean time is an attribute of God. It also doesn’t mean it isn’t. As I see it, if God is eternal, Scripture is posing one of the two claims: 1. God endures through time eternally. 2. God stands outside time It seems you land on #2. So while time may not be part...

As Christians, we are not under law but under grace. Our covenant is not based on the Old Covenant. Thus, our “agreement” with God does not consist on living according to the Law. Those who seek to live according to the Law will be judged by the Law. We live under grace. This is not to say...

They are all true. That is why I wouldn’t try to simplify who God is by lifting one statement above the others. That was the point I was trying to make.

Ok, perhaps I misunderstood, but you quoted my post on ”time being part of His essence” and replied It seemed you were contesting my quote by suggesting “time being part of His essence” was wrongly attributing time to God’s attributes. I just think it’s evident that God’s eternal nature is...

Well, I guess what I meant by that is that love is one of God’s attributes…along with omniscience, omnipresence, omnipotence, patience, life, truth, etc. I agree that God is love, but I’m not so sure about the idea that “love is the whole of God “ or ”love is the only concise definition of...

I thought the jk was apparent, but if not it was a joke

Are you so sure that time is not a divine attribute?

I wouldnt disagree that God created time as we experience it. However, that is not to say that God doesn’t exist in time or that time is not part of His essence. I think we would all agree that “love” is an eternal attribute of the Triune God. So, while God created “love” as we know and...

I think that text is referring to our status as victors with Christ, and clearly not referring to our physical placement in the moment. I know right…Gary Larsen and his Far Side comics can’t be wrong!

Thanks, Len. I appreciate your comments. I would just challenge the assertion that God is “bound” by his creations. If God creates something as an extension of himself, those things reflect his qualities. Thus, they are not independent of Him. For instance, John 1 informs us that the Logos...

Not sure I understand what you are saying. I agree we have a spirit, and God is Spirit. Thus, our spiritual beings would also be derived from His being. If our beings are entirely divorced from God…spiritual, physical, intellectual, etc, then we dont live and move and have our beings in Him...

But it does say, “In him we live and move and have our being“ (Acts 17:28). So I would take that to mean not only our physical bodies, but the time and space we exist in as well. I believe that God all we have, are and exist in is an extension of God, himself. He is life, reality, truth and...

And to ask you a question: How do you suppose God created the universe if he does not have a past, present or future? How can someone do something ”new” if they exist in a state of timelessness where neither “new” nor “old” is a possibility?

I dont mind that illustration. I am fine with the idea that God, in his creation has set certain boundaries for us. I have never thought that free will is without limitation. Certainly the Bible, and common sense, indicates to us that God has “determined allotted periods and boundaries of...

Fair enough. I agree that much of the language in Revelation is figurative. However, it is figurative of passing time in which God provides for the needs of his people. And, I agree with you that that provision is grounded in the work of Christ. A figure of speech still means something, even...

Thanks for your reply, Eli. Maybe the best way to ponder this is by process of elimination. I agree that our understanding of eternity and timelessness moves far outside human comprehension. And, as you mentioned, time itself is a bit of a mystery. However, since God has chosen to reveal...

What if God’s nature includes time? And if God currently dwells in a timeless eternity with no past, present or future, doesn’t that contradict the picture we see in Revelation with the tree of life yielding fruit each month? Eternity, imo, implies an endless span of time, not a timeless state.

Thanks for your reply. I disagree with pretty much everything you wrote. Allow me to explain… First, when we speak of essence, we. are talking about God’s being or ontology. Essence is defined as “the permanent as contrasted with accidental element of being.” Thus, if part of who God is by...