12 of Israel's baptisms...

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obertarti

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Lamar said:
You are hiding behind generalities and fooling no one.
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Baptism into Christ is not generalities

But spiritual death and spiritual resurrection

And they have signs if somebody has it passed through
 
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Lamar

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obertarti said:
Baptism into Christ is not generalities

But spiritual death and spiritual resurrection

And they have signs if somebody has it passed through
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The definition of "Baptism into Christ" is abstract, hence it is a generality. (Indefinite statement)

Water Baptism is not. (Definite statement)

We may debate their purpose but not their form.
 
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obertarti

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Lamar said:
The definition of "Baptism into Christ" is abstract, hence it is a generality. (Indefinite statement)

Water Baptism is not. (Definite statement)

We may debate their purpose but not their form.
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Scheme and form was not discussed by apostle but explained

R6/7/8

And G/C/E

Christ is power and wisdom

Who baptised into Christ baptised into power of God and into wisdom of God

Till not baptism should start and ongoing to be

This is spiritual and not about visible things

For children in allegories explained spiritual baptism by apostle

But invisible that is spiritual has manifestations by which one can understand what is result

One which is not born from spirit of course

Who is in the spirit that see invisible

Flesh sees flesh- spirit sees spirit

Who is in spirit will not wait manifestations
 
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obertarti said:
Scheme and form was not discussed by apostle but explained

R6/7/8

And G/C/E

Christ is power and wisdom

Who baptised into Christ baptised into power of God and into wisdom of God

Till not baptism should start and ongoing to be

This is spiritual and not about visible things

For children in allegories explained spiritual baptism by apostle

But invisible that is spiritual has manifestations by which one can understand what is result

One which is not born from spirit of course

Who is in the spirit that see invisible

Flesh sees flesh- spirit sees spirit

Who is in spirit will not wait manifestations
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Please do not take offense.

Is English your first language?

I do not understand your response.
 
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obertarti

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Lamar said:
Please do not take offense.

Is English your first language?

I do not understand your response.
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It is Your English blocking to understand English of the bible

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Romans 6/7/8 in details describing baptism into Christ by the Holy Spirit

Spiritual integration into Christ

After this Christ will be opened in one baptised into Him
 
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