Flat earth debunked.

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Gideon300

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Happy New Year, friend.

I don't mind the wisecracks. It shows me fairly quickly who is here to genuinely learn something, and who is here to oppose and obscure the truth.

I particularly like it when a denier (maybe some are not trolls) deny the obvious truth, and then I get to point out where they are obviously wrong. And then they make out as if they didn't understand in the first place. The exchange tends to go like this.

Me: Obvious truth demonstrating point.
Denier: Denial of obvious truth.
Me: Example of obvious truth demonstrating point - and a mild jab at the denier's competence in the field given the denial.
Denier: Backtrack "Uh - I don't understand the question." Projection. "That mild jab applies to you!" Change the subject to a slightly different one, to hide the error, or a story that would indicate denier would have or should have had the knowledge not to have denied the obvious truth. "Well, of course I've been in a plane - in my younger days, I was quite the pilot..."

See this exchange below, posted for your amusement as well as mine.






Okay. End of exchange. Back to my response to you, now.
Lol. :p
I won't comment on FE anymore. However, I will draw attention to another FE myth. The distance to the moon is measurable from the earth in a number of ways, This does not include a long piece of rope or a tape measure. It is also far further than FE proponents state it to be.
And the methods more or less agree that the earth is about 385,000 km from the moon. The orbit of the moon is slightly elliptical, so the distance varies accordingly.

The simplest way to measure the distance is radar. It is also possible to use laser measurement. Both methods confirm earlier calculated distances.
 

kinda

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It's pretty hard to comment on Flat Earth, since there is no flat earth model to look at.

It's like arguing when you scored a touch down, flat earthers can just move the goal posts.


 

MessengerofTruth

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Me: Obvious truth demonstrating point.
Denier: Denial of obvious truth.
Me: Example of obvious truth demonstrating point - and a mild jab at the denier's competence in the field given the denial.
Denier: Backtrack "Uh - I don't understand the question." Projection. "That mild jab applies to you!" Change the subject to a slightly different one, to hide the error, or a story that would indicate denier would have or should have had the knowledge not to have denied the obvious truth. "Well, of course I've been in a plane - in my younger days, I was quite the pilot..."
I understand. It's like you are a witness to exchanges I've had, about Various truths, in the past. Just keep sharing and pray that people will understand.
 

Cameron143

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I want to see that ice wall on Antarctida!
You can make your own if your icemaker makes square cubes. Besides, ice pretty much looks the same everywhere. Unless, of course, your goal is to see the backside of ice. I'm told the view is spectacular from outer space.
 
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You can make your own if your icemaker makes square cubes. Besides, ice pretty much looks the same everywhere. Unless, of course, your goal is to see the backside of ice. I'm told the view is spectacular from outer space.
But where does the world as we know end?
 

GaryA

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There you go folks. Not much left to argue....yes?

I am pretty sure - that is the most dumb, most stupid, most idiotic, most bogus, most fake thing I have ever seen in my life... :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

There are so many painfully obvious things wrong with that video that I have no hesitation in saying - anyone who believes that it is real is "trapped deep deep DEEP in the MATRIX" and is [totally] "asleep at the wheel" when it comes to being able to recognize what is real in this world and what is not.

In saying this, it is not my intent to insult anyone; rather, it is my hope that I might encourage some to search until they find and take whatever path is necessary to help them wake up from the 'coma' they are in --- anyone who actually falls for that "pile of deception" ( :poop: ) needs to understand just how gullible they really are...

It's SAD - it really is. :(:(:(:(:(
 

Moses_Young

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I am pretty sure - that is the most dumb, most stupid, most idiotic, most bogus, most fake thing I have ever seen in my life... :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

There are so many painfully obvious things wrong with that video that I have no hesitation in saying - anyone who believes that it is real is "trapped deep deep DEEP in the MATRIX" and is [totally] "asleep at the wheel" when it comes to being able to recognize what is real in this world and what is not.

In saying this, it is not my intent to insult anyone; rather, it is my hope that I might encourage some to search until they find and take whatever path is necessary to help them wake up from the 'coma' they are in --- anyone who actually falls for that "pile of deception" ( :poop: ) needs to understand just how gullible they really are...

It's SAD - it really is. :(:(:(:(:(
Gary, you save so much time! I felt I was going to have to respond to that video "proof" that we all live in ball (or is it clown?) world, but you responded much better than I could have.

We also have to remember, if space is real, NASA have had more than half a century to take legitimate photographs, but all we have are the demonstrably fraudulent photos and Computer Generated Images. We also know that video fakery is getting more and more realistic, and harder to prove false. Even if the video were not so easily demonstrated as false, the past record of lying by NASA and Co. would make such a video or photograph something I would want to double-check by taking or making one myself, certainly not taking their video or word for it.
 

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I am pretty sure - that is the most dumb, most stupid, most idiotic, most bogus, most fake thing I have ever seen in my life... :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

There are so many painfully obvious things wrong with that video that I have no hesitation in saying - anyone who believes that it is real is "trapped deep deep DEEP in the MATRIX" and is [totally] "asleep at the wheel" when it comes to being able to recognize what is real in this world and what is not.

In saying this, it is not my intent to insult anyone; rather, it is my hope that I might encourage some to search until they find and take whatever path is necessary to help them wake up from the 'coma' they are in --- anyone who actually falls for that "pile of deception" ( :poop: ) needs to understand just how gullible they really are...

It's SAD - it really is. :(:(:(:(:(
I would be interested in your astute analysis. Please regale us will you?

Make it as complex as you wish. I am emotionally and intellectually prepared ;)
 

GaryA

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Gary, you save so much time! I felt I was going to have to respond to that video "proof" that we all live in ball (or is it clown?) world, but you responded much better than I could have.
In that case, I now wish I had waited for you to respond before posting... :p

(Of course, you may still add whatever you wish - and, I hope you will do so! Don't let me stop you... :) I often enjoy reading what you post. And, you often save me a lot of time... (y) ;) )

We also have to remember, if space is real, NASA have had more than half a century to take legitimate photographs, but all we have are the demonstrably fraudulent photos and Computer Generated Images. We also know that video fakery is getting more and more realistic, and harder to prove false. Even if the video were not so easily demonstrated as false, the past record of lying by NASA and Co. would make such a video or photograph something I would want to double-check by taking or making one myself, certainly not taking their video or word for it.
Yes - and, it is really sad that the masses live in the dream-world characterized by The Matrix [movie] - so thoroughly brainwashed to believe whatever they are told/shown by the MSM - always captivated by the "current" thing while forgetting everything from the past - in which is "a mountain of evidence" ready to be seen and understood by anyone who will simply "back up far enough to see the big picture" - so that they recognize and realize the truth about the world they live in.
 

Gideon300

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I am pretty sure - that is the most dumb, most stupid, most idiotic, most bogus, most fake thing I have ever seen in my life... :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

There are so many painfully obvious things wrong with that video that I have no hesitation in saying - anyone who believes that it is real is "trapped deep deep DEEP in the MATRIX" and is [totally] "asleep at the wheel" when it comes to being able to recognize what is real in this world and what is not.

In saying this, it is not my intent to insult anyone; rather, it is my hope that I might encourage some to search until they find and take whatever path is necessary to help them wake up from the 'coma' they are in --- anyone who actually falls for that "pile of deception" ( :poop: ) needs to understand just how gullible they really are...

It's SAD - it really is. :(:(:(:(:(
Every word that you've said applies precisely to you. No insult intended, of course. The truth is never an insult.
 

Gideon300

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Gary, you save so much time! I felt I was going to have to respond to that video "proof" that we all live in ball (or is it clown?) world, but you responded much better than I could have.

We also have to remember, if space is real, NASA have had more than half a century to take legitimate photographs, but all we have are the demonstrably fraudulent photos and Computer Generated Images. We also know that video fakery is getting more and more realistic, and harder to prove false. Even if the video were not so easily demonstrated as false, the past record of lying by NASA and Co. would make such a video or photograph something I would want to double-check by taking or making one myself, certainly not taking their video or word for it.
I remember someone offering to take FE's on a flight around the world, no expense to the FE. No one has taken up the offer. They dare not because their intellectual house of cards will come tumbling down.
 

Moses_Young

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I remember someone offering to take FE's on a flight around the world, no expense to the FE. No one has taken up the offer. They dare not because their intellectual house of cards will come tumbling down.
Lol. What? I'm interested. Maybe after the vaxx mandates die off, 'though. I'm not artificially shortening my life, destroying my DNA and becoming infertile just to demonstrate a flight around the world won't convince me of ball-Earth theory.
 

GaryA

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I remember someone offering to take FE's on a flight around the world, no expense to the FE. No one has taken up the offer. They dare not because their intellectual house of cards will come tumbling down.
Lol. What? I'm interested. Maybe after the vaxx mandates die off, 'though. I'm not artificially shortening my life, destroying my DNA and becoming infertile just to demonstrate a flight around the world won't convince me of ball-Earth theory.
There is only one very specific flight path that is worth anything at all whatsoever - one that will travel non-stop straight-as-an-arrow directly over Antarctica and the South Pole - never showing any direction on a perfectly and properly working compass except South and then North (flipping at the South Pole) - emerging out the other side heading North and reaching far enough away from Antarctica to determine that the plane has arrived at a proper place on the other side of the 'globe'. There must be identifiable landmarks from start to finish to assure the actual path of the plane every-step-of-the-way.
 

GaryA

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I remember someone offering to take FE's on a flight around the world, no expense to the FE. No one has taken up the offer. They dare not because their intellectual house of cards will come tumbling down.
Somehow, I doubt you will see anyone make such an offer subject to strict conditions such as those posed in post #116 (or anything similar).
 

GaryA

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Lol. What? I'm interested. Maybe after the vaxx mandates die off, 'though. I'm not artificially shortening my life, destroying my DNA and becoming infertile just to demonstrate a flight around the world won't convince me of ball-Earth theory.
We already know that whatever they may offer would be designed to "trick" people with some form of deception... :rolleyes:

And - I am with you - travel over any great distance today can be very dangerous.
 

kinda

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You can make your own if your icemaker makes square cubes. Besides, ice pretty much looks the same everywhere. Unless, of course, your goal is to see the backside of ice. I'm told the view is spectacular from outer space.
You just admitted you believe in the ice wall! lol

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I think we are due for another Salem Witch Trial. So, was it, if she floats, she is a witch, or if she sinks she is witch?!?! No matter, the Flat Earth Trial must come forth.
 

Cameron143

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You just admitted you believe in the ice wall! lol

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I think we are due for another Salem Witch Trial. So, was it, if she floats, she is a witch, or if she sinks she is witch?!?! No matter, the Flat Earth Trial must come forth.
I'm acknowledging that some believe it exists. I reserve the right to change my mind indiscriminately as the audience changes. I am neutral on all things creatively except who the Creator is. My goal here is, and will always be, is to learn the latest insults and collect more aluminum foil.