Flat earth debunked.

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GaryA

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If we go by the government statistics, a good 80% - 90% of the people in Western nations took an experimental and potentially life-threatening, DNA-modifying "vaccine" in a failed endeavour to protect against a disease indistiguishable from the common cold. Not a very convincing indicator for relying on the intelligence of the general population.
Unfortunately, it is a very convincing indicator of a people who are willing to allow anyone-or-anything labeled 'authority' do their thinking for them... :(
 

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Right, and Eratosthenes didn’t even exist, but is also a figment of our fertile imaginations.

Your denial of simple science is profound.
And, your inability to think in a Flat Earth model context is profound. (Especially since I believe you to be an intelligent person.)

Still? You have not learned how to look at the Flat Earth model from within the context of the Flat Earth model?

:( SMH

("But, don't worry, you are not alone. The majority seem to be unable to break free from their 'Ball Earth' indoctrination...")

The determinations of Eratosthenes were based on a false assumption - that the angle of the light rays targeting the well and the pole were parallel to each other.

You see - he was working on the assumption that the earth was a sphere.

The same observations exist for the Flat Earth model. The sun can be above the well and cast a shadow from the pole. But, the light rays to the two targets are not parallel.

Think about it for a while...
 

kinda

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And, your inability to think in a Flat Earth model context is profound. (Especially since I believe you to be an intelligent person.)

Still? You have not learned how to look at the Flat Earth model from within the context of the Flat Earth model?

:( SMH

("But, don't worry, you are not alone. The majority seem to be unable to break free from their 'Ball Earth' indoctrination...")

The determinations of Eratosthenes were based on a false assumption - that the angle of the light rays targeting the well and the pole were parallel to each other.

You see - he was working on the assumption that the earth was a sphere.

The same observations exist for the Flat Earth model. The sun can be above the well and cast a shadow from the pole. But, the light rays to the two targets are not parallel.

Think about it for a while...


Let everyone know when this flat earth model is available to see, and please post, so we can see a scale, and how the sun, and moon operate above. Until then...


 

kinda

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Just as the walls of your bathtub contain the bath water - likewise does the 'ice wall' contain the oceans. ;)
With an army of flat earthers around the world, one would think that there would be some photos of this large ice wall. Seems like the evidence is slightly in favor of those darn globe earthers. I realize I'm a globalist now also, since concave hollow earth is just a globe on the inside. Darn it!

Even Google Earth is in on the flat earth cover up?!?!

Good news for flat earthers, you can now download the flat earth G.P.S., which let's you know what country your in, just in case you forgot, but doesn't do much else. lol



Hurry and download your flat earth G.P.S.!

It's so much more accurate than Google maps, or iphone maps. HA! ha!

"Meh. First thing you see when you open the app is an ad. Then you get an Azimuthal equidistant projection map (which flat earthers claim is the "real" map of the world), with your location on it. At the scale the map it at, that just about tells you what country you're in. No way to zoom in, scroll around or anything. If you hit the back button, the map starts spinning around as it probably loses the GPS location or something, and that's all it does. I took longer to write this review than I spent playing with the app, as there's not anything you can do. You'll install it, go "heh" once, then uninstall it."

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cassian.me.flatearthgps.free&hl=en_CA&gl=US&pli=1
 

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No doubt he already has - which is why he has invited you to open your eyes and see what he has - that which may be seen by those who choose to open their eyes to see it.

The question that remains is - are you willing to consider his words and open your eyes that you may see...?
No! Lest I "see" what you "see" and turn from my wicked ways and believe -- no, KNOW -- that the world is flat, and I have touched the sky!!!!
 

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there used to be a lot of flat earth vids on youtube. theyve been took down, altered or buried.
 

kinda

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If flat earthers don't have an official model of the sun and moon yet, feel free to use this gif, as your rough draft. lol


 

kinda

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View attachment 252277

Lunar eclipse if the earth was flat.

I'm guessing, that the flat earthers don't view it that way, it's more like this.





This is probably the best you will ever see of a flat earth model, it doesn't work obviously, so that's why they don't bother posting their model.

It's still under construction.They have huge strides to over come, because they have to account for season changes, stars, and etc.
Whatever they finally agree upon, will take mental gymnastics to believe.

They could probably rip off the concave hollow earth model a little bit, but it still won't work. No matter what they draw up, it will not work. It's literally impossible. Sad, but true. Let that sink in flat earthers, the flat earth model is impossible. The best they could explain it, is with holograms, and duct tape theories. Flat Earth is beyond reason and it will never make sense, but people still believe it.
 

kinda

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I'm gonna give you more credit for posting this video. One of the concave hollow earthers, that I read from, is writing a book, and naming it Dyson's Sphere. So, if you have any other comments, please share.

My brother is a Treky, sci-fi, nerd-o type, so watching a video on Star Trek, really wasn't what I wanted to be inspired from. lol

"A Dyson sphere is a hypothetical megastructure that encompasses a star and captures a large percentage of its solar power output.[1][2][3] The concept is a thought experiment that attempts to imagine how a spacefaring civilization would meet its energy requirements once those requirements exceed what can be generated from the home planet's resources alone. Because only a tiny fraction of a star's energy emissions reaches the surface of any orbiting planet, building structures encircling a star would enable a civilization to harvest far more energy."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere
 

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And, your inability to think in a Flat Earth model context is profound. (Especially since I believe you to be an intelligent person.)

Still? You have not learned how to look at the Flat Earth model from within the context of the Flat Earth model?

:( SMH

("But, don't worry, you are not alone. The majority seem to be unable to break free from their 'Ball Earth' indoctrination...")

The determinations of Eratosthenes were based on a false assumption - that the angle of the light rays targeting the well and the pole were parallel to each other.

You see - he was working on the assumption that the earth was a sphere.

The same observations exist for the Flat Earth model. The sun can be above the well and cast a shadow from the pole. But, the light rays to the two targets are not parallel.

Think about it for a while...
You beat me to it with respect to Eratosthenes. Circular reasoning is not a proof of ball-Earth, but is evidence of an ignorance of logic.

there used to be a lot of flat earth vids on youtube. theyve been took down, altered or buried.
Flat Earth became too mainstream. The gatekeepers realised they were losing the battle to the truth, so resorted to censorship. Of course, with the censorship, more people are realising that the Earth is indeed flat, but the censorship has allowed a good fraction of the ignorant to continue be hoodwinked by the die-hard Heliocentrists for longer.
 

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Or, rather, pray for understanding - the Bible does in fact give us the answer...
Before I was convinced of God's flat Earth, I did actually sincerely pray for this. The scriptures seemed to imply Earth was flat, but it seemed (to me at the time) scientifically untenable. When I asked for God's intervention and wisdom, and approached the subject with an open mind, I became more and more convinced of the truth. Which is perhaps why the intellectual approach to Flat Earth isn't always successful? The issue is spiritual as well as physical?
 

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I.e., folks, don't believe your lying eyes :LOL::ROFL:
Nope. Exactly the opposite. Those who believe the Earth is flat tell people to trust their eyes (and other senses) a.k.a. science. It is the Heliocentrists who seem intent on encouraging others to disbelieve what their senses tell them. As can be seen in the examples below.

Why does the Earth seem motionless?
Flat Earther:
Because it is motionless.
Globalist: It only seems motionless because it's spinning at a perfectly uniform speed with no acceleration or deceleration ever and the atmosphere is magically velcroed to it. Actually the Earth is spinning on it's axis at 1,000 mph, rotating around the Sun at 67,000 mph, which is orbiting the Milky Way at 500,000 mph and shooting through the known Universe at 67,000,000 mph. We don't feel even the slightest bit of this motion because all the centrifugal, gravitational, and inertial forces somehow perfectly cancel out.

Why do the Sun and Moon appear to be the same size?
Flat Earther:
Because they are the same size.
Globalist: They only appear to be the same size because of an incredibly perfect parallax perspective from Earth. Actually the Sun is 1.392x10^6 km in diameter and 1.496x10^8 km from Earth. The Moon is 3474 km in diameter and 384,403 km from the Earth. And these just happen to be the EXACT diameters and distances necessary for a viewer from Earth to falsely perceive them as being the same size.

Why do the Sun, Moon, and Stars all appear to revolve around a stationary Earth?
Flat Earther:
Because they do.
Globalist: The Moon does revolve around the Earth, but the Earth actually revolves around the Sun, and all the stars only seem to revolve around the Earth because the Earth itself is spinning beneath your feet!

Why do we never see the rotation of the Moon?
Flat Earther:
Because it doesn't rotate.
Globalist: Both the Moon and the Earth are actually rotating but they are doing so in such a way that from our perspective it seems that neither are. The Earth is spinning East to West at 1,000 mph while orbiting the Sun at 67,000 mph. The Moon is spinning West to East at 10.3 mph while orbiting the Earth at 2,288 mph. These motions/speeds perfectly cancel out so that the Moon always only shows us one side.

Why do the stars appear to be fixed along a celestial hemisphere?
Flat Earther:
Because they are.
Globalist: The stars only appear to be fixed along a celestial hemisphere because they are so incredibly far away. Even after hundreds of millions of miles of our (supposed) orbit around the Sun, the stars appear in the exact same positions at the exact same meridian times because they are many "light-years" away. A light-year is approximately 6 TRILLION miles away and that is why they falsely seem fixed from our faulty perspective.
 

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Before I was convinced of God's flat Earth, I did actually sincerely pray for this. The scriptures seemed to imply Earth was flat, but it seemed (to me at the time) scientifically untenable. When I asked for God's intervention and wisdom, and approached the subject with an open mind, I became more and more convinced of the truth. Which is perhaps why the intellectual approach to Flat Earth isn't always successful? The issue is spiritual as well as physical?
I'm calling your bluff. Show me a Bible verse, that says, the earth is flat, or even hints of this.
 

kinda

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Nope. Exactly the opposite. Those who believe the Earth is flat tell people to trust their eyes (and other senses) a.k.a. science. It is the Heliocentrists who seem intent on encouraging others to disbelieve what their senses tell them. As can be seen in the examples below.

Why does the Earth seem motionless?
Flat Earther:
Because it is motionless.
Globalist: It only seems motionless because it's spinning at a perfectly uniform speed with no acceleration or deceleration ever and the atmosphere is magically velcroed to it. Actually the Earth is spinning on it's axis at 1,000 mph, rotating around the Sun at 67,000 mph, which is orbiting the Milky Way at 500,000 mph and shooting through the known Universe at 67,000,000 mph. We don't feel even the slightest bit of this motion because all the centrifugal, gravitational, and inertial forces somehow perfectly cancel out.

Why do the Sun and Moon appear to be the same size?
Flat Earther:
Because they are the same size.
Globalist: They only appear to be the same size because of an incredibly perfect parallax perspective from Earth. Actually the Sun is 1.392x10^6 km in diameter and 1.496x10^8 km from Earth. The Moon is 3474 km in diameter and 384,403 km from the Earth. And these just happen to be the EXACT diameters and distances necessary for a viewer from Earth to falsely perceive them as being the same size.

Why do the Sun, Moon, and Stars all appear to revolve around a stationary Earth?
Flat Earther:
Because they do.
Globalist: The Moon does revolve around the Earth, but the Earth actually revolves around the Sun, and all the stars only seem to revolve around the Earth because the Earth itself is spinning beneath your feet!

Why do we never see the rotation of the Moon?
Flat Earther:
Because it doesn't rotate.
Globalist: Both the Moon and the Earth are actually rotating but they are doing so in such a way that from our perspective it seems that neither are. The Earth is spinning East to West at 1,000 mph while orbiting the Sun at 67,000 mph. The Moon is spinning West to East at 10.3 mph while orbiting the Earth at 2,288 mph. These motions/speeds perfectly cancel out so that the Moon always only shows us one side.

Why do the stars appear to be fixed along a celestial hemisphere?
Flat Earther:
Because they are.
Globalist: The stars only appear to be fixed along a celestial hemisphere because they are so incredibly far away. Even after hundreds of millions of miles of our (supposed) orbit around the Sun, the stars appear in the exact same positions at the exact same meridian times because they are many "light-years" away. A light-year is approximately 6 TRILLION miles away and that is why they falsely seem fixed from our faulty perspective.
Flat Earthers don't believe the Moon rotates, or just you? Oh, that's great. Please expand on this, don't want to miss this.

By the way, not all Globalist share the views, that your portraying them to believe. The majority yes, some no.
 

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I'm calling your bluff. Show me a Bible verse, that says, the earth is flat, or even hints of this.
It's been done to death. Just do a search of my history. The below is one.

"Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:" Circles are flat, by the way.

Flat Earthers don't believe the Moon rotates, or just you? Oh, that's great. Please expand on this, don't want to miss this.
What reason would a Flat Earther have for believing that the moon rotates?

By the way, not all Globalist share the views, that your portraying them to believe. The majority yes, some no.
Yes, I appreciate that as a concave Earther, you get slightly less wrong than most other globalists.