The 'ELECT' vs 'Free-Choice'

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No... they are here.

And, I have a feeling that is your "spirits" goal for you to perform.
To get Christians to over react to your absurdities and get them banned as a trophy..

But, these people are not banned. They tuned in to drop me a word about you.

You are fighting with a mindset that the world works within..

Just waiting you out until others here know that they are not alone in how they perceive you.
In the mean while you will play the victim card and gain sympathy of a few that gauge reality
according to their subject emotions, and not by the objective presentation of God's Scripture.

I have a purpose in this.

You do not frustrate me.


Wishing you God's blessings.
Thankyou your most kind. 😊

Anyway my guess what message is,,,,,, don't forget to remember the Sabbath. 😋

Not keep it emoji-smiley.gif

Remember it. holy-priest.gif

And hopefully you become blessed.

I was just wondering whether or not you would have something worth while listening to.

But obviously not.
 
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Your "lord."
Not the Lord God Jesus Christ!

Again... your guiding spirits faked an answer for you..

I hear they work better with a crystal ball...


,,,,,,
I have a nice song for you 😋

If you treat me nice I might even give you a biscuit.

 

Genez

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Thankyou your most kind. 😊

Anyway my guess what message is,,,,,, don't forget to remember the Sabbath. 😋

Not keep it View attachment 263539

Remember it. View attachment 263540

And hopefully you become blessed.

I was just wondering whether or not you would have something worth while listening to.

But obviously not.
Keep playing that game....

You are not going to get me banned.

God will deal with you. I will just watch.

:) here! :coffee:
 
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Keep playing that game....

You are not going to get me banned.

God will deal with you. I will just watch.

:) here! :coffee:
ok I'll give you 2 chocolates biscuits if you sing along with me to this
Song 😂 and a kit kat.

 

Genez

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I have come across an idea lately within this forum, that some believe that there are 2 classes of Christian. They believe that there is a class called 'the elect', who have no choice but to be saved because God has decided they will be saved no matter what and the 2nd class being those who are not elect but are still able to be saved through choosing Christ.
There are no "non-elect" believers.

God elects on the basis of knowing who will believe. That is why He elects them onto having eternal life in Heaven.
Those who God knows will choose to believe? God elected them on the basis of knowing they would believe.
Its what they were elected for. That is, to be entered into being the bride of Christ when we believe!
David and Moses were not elected by God for the same thing. They are not the bride of Christ.
They will enjoy the eternal blessings God has elected Israel for.

The problem happens when one tries to fit their theological narrative to be based upon rigid Calvinistic dogma.
Whom does God elect to be in Christ? Those whom God knew would believe while being alive in the Church age.

We did not choose to be born at a time that when we believed we would become the bride of Christ. God elected us for that.
He did not elect us to believe as Calvinists will strain to convince us. But elected us for what was to be God's provision for those who do believe during the church age.

grace and peace ..............
 

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Why do we keep hearing so much worry about these labels “elect” and “non-elect”? How is worrying or researching this gonna help with the salvation and success of those that God has laid on your heart, or praying and fasting fir a breakthrough for them? You’re involving yourself in a vain pursuit. “I would minister to that person, but what if they’re not an elect?”
 
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Why do we keep hearing so much worry about these labels “elect” and “non-elect”? How is worrying or researching this gonna help with the salvation and success of those that God has laid on your heart, or praying and fasting fir a breakthrough for them? You’re involving yourself in a vain pursuit. “I would minister to that person, but what if they’re not an elect?”
The question did Peter say this to his chosen

Or was it God




Therefore, rid yourselves of all malice and all deceit, hypocrisy, envy, and slander of every kind. Like newborn babies, crave pure spiritual milk, so that by it you may grow up in your salvation, now that you have tasted that the Lord is good.

Then this

Dear friends, I urge you, as foreigners and exiles,

to abstain from sinful desires.


Pst there's a few stones in between

Elohim 😊

 
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Wish me look in waring my tights tonight 😊

Me and my wife are in dancing contest to night haha it should be fun



 

John146

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Why do we keep hearing so much worry about these labels “elect” and “non-elect”? How is worrying or researching this gonna help with the salvation and success of those that God has laid on your heart, or praying and fasting for a breakthrough for them? You’re involving yourself in a vain pursuit. “I would minister to that person, but what if they’re not an elect?”
That’s the point. Why pray and fast for someone’s salvation if God has already elected to save them before the foundation of the world? Why pray at all? For a Calvinist, prayer cannot change anything for all things have been ordained by God.
 

Burn1986

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That’s the point. Why pray and fast for someone’s salvation if God has already elected to save them before the foundation of the world? Why pray at all? For a Calvinist, prayer cannot change anything for all things have been ordained by God.
Cmon man, seriously? That’s just a lame excuse to never pray or fast. Where is Calvin mentioned in the Bible. Are you a follower of Calvin or a follower of Jesus?
 
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Cmon man, seriously? That’s just a lame excuse to never pray or fast. Where is Calvin mentioned in the Bible. Are you a follower of Calvin or a follower of Jesus?
oh sheesh.

Elohim burni pops 😋

I take it you burn for him to.

So did Jean Calvin

PST the tulip doctrine was wrote by people who decided Calvin was saying what they think they wrote in tulip after Jean Calvin died

It was not jean Calvins instruction to write tulip.

It about remembering Calvin as a Good church father.

But the after followers who follow man rather than God decided to follow Calvin but also twist his words after he died


Please believe this I know. 😊

Elohim 😊

 

Burn1986

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oh sheesh.

Elohim burni pops 😋

I take it you burn for him to.

So did Jean Calvin

PST the tulip doctrine was wrote by people who decided Calvin was saying what they think they wrote in tulip after Jean Calvin died

It was not jean Calvins instruction to write tulip.

It about remembering Calvin as a Good church father.

But the after followers who follow man rather than God decided to follow Calvin but also twist his words after he died


Please believe this I know. 😊

Elohim 😊

Wow. How are these people allowed on a Christian Forum?
 

ForestGreenCook

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1 Corinthians 2:14 has nothing to do with choosing God, it's about being able to recognize and understand spiritual things. Only those with the Holy Spirit are able to do these things.

You are using it with salvation when it has absolutely nothing to do with salvation.

Salvation comes by ""hearing"" the Gospel preached and believing.

Hearing and believing is not the cause of eternal salvation=deliverance, but it is the cause, of those who have already been promised of an inheritance of heaven ((Heb 9:15), to be delivered=saved, as they sojourn here on earth, when they come unto a knowledge of the truth (Rom 10:1-3).